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Venice Update

News of Venice, CA and Marina del Rey CA

We Didn’t Start the Fire, Venice is Burning


Special thanks to Billy Joel, Performed by Mark Lennon of the band, Venice,
Produced by Nico Ruderman, Lyrics by Sean Obrien

Mike Bonin, Sheila Kuell, Gavin Newsome, what a fool
Autum Burke, Ted Lieu, Ben Allen have no clue
Garcetti, Eunuch in a trance, Scott Weiner in his pants
Third St., Boardwalk, Oakwood cant get a cop
Needles, feces, drug dealers, ocean breeze
Rubbish fires, Baseball bats chop shops, tons of rats
Encampments, Cherynoble, Carol Sobel thinks she’s noble
Rape, murder, suicide, no bail, it’s genocide
We didn’t’ start the Fire
Venice is burning, since Bonin’s been earning
We didn’t’ start the Fire, Venice is blighted, as we tried to fight it.
Blue tarps, Got Junk, Venice in a funk
Out of State, imports, no support, Supreme Court
Prostitution, vandalism, saturation, devastation
Sanitation, hesitation, Venice annihilation
Nero on the roof, Government has no proof
Pelosi, ice cream, I just want to scream
Harris, VP, abandoned us to live her dream
People squatting on the Beach, methamphetamine
We didn’t’ start the Fire
Penmar is burning, since Bonin’s been learning
We didn’t’ start the Fire, Venice is blighted, but we’ve tried to fight it.
RV’s, heaps of trash, they wonder why we clash
Rising crime, too much grime, brother can you spare a dime
Hair cuts, trim suits, bureaucratic lawsuits
Jones Act, Boise, failed leaders, crazy
Tax base shrinking, City Council winking
Zombies peeing, Residents fleeing
Puppet show, quid pro quo, no go, Skid Row
Rezone, methadone, Venice a containment zone
We didn’t’ start the Fire
Third Street is burning, since Bonin’s been churning
We didn’t’ start the Fire, Venice is blighted, but we’ve tried to fight it.
Dogtown upside down, violent shantytown
Dereliction, mental crisis, drug addiction, hepatitis
Heroin, weed, booze, storm drains full of ooze
Echo Park clean up, Venice remains a dump
Covid, Bonin’s dream, no Ben and Jerry’s Ice cream
Sirens daily, Where’s The Guy who plays the ukulele
We didn’t’ start the Fire
The Boardwalk is burning, since Bonin’s been earning
We didn’t’ start the Fire, Venice is blighted, As we’ve tried to fight it.
Homeless advocates, vagrants dropping pants
Sunset, Hampton, shelter box with a gun
Developers lobby, residents groggy
Venice a containment zone, I can’t leave my home
Tents around the school, beach and Rose cesspool
Venice strives, Lost Lives, but they all have knives
Too much alcohol, cant containment them all
Back again, bohemian, Monster on the Median
We didn’t’ start the Fire
Venice is burning, since Bonin’s been earning
We didn’t’ start the Fire, A new day will dawn,
Venice goes on and on and on and on and on and on an on and on and on and on

A drip here and there ends in an empty tank … so cool, so unsanitary

The film illustrates a big health problem with motor homes parked on the streets of Venice because there is no close, convenient dump station.

The two closest dump stations are Dockweiler RV Park at 12001 Vista del Mar, Playa del Rey and Hyperion Plant at 9660 W. Imperial Hwy, Playa del Rey, Gate B. Dockweiler charges $10 per dump. Hyperion in free and is open M,w,F from 9 to 2 and T,T from 12 to 4.

Not only is that a long distance for a motorhome to travel for a dump but one must consider the maneuverability of the motorhome on the road. Also when a motorhome has to be moved, everything inside has to be stowed or it could be a movable tragedy. When a motorhome person moves, he looses his spot. Spots near the ocean in Venice are precious.

So most do what this one in movie does.

The photo shows two handles used for motorhome dumping. Each handle goes to a tank. One tank is for shower and dishwater water; the other is for the toilet. A long tube in connected to the fitting in the middle, both handles are pulled out and the refuge with water goes to a dump station.

What many do is keep the shower and dishwater valve a little open so it will drip until it is gone. Seldom do they leave it open like the movie. Some will pull up to a sewer and just dump both tanks. Usually this is done late at night or early in the morning. This writer has seen one pull up and dump both tanks in a waste water dump that goes directly to the ocean. Motorhome people have other configurations and probably have a few variations, such as using a bucket to carry waste to the sewer.

A City should consider this fact before mapping out areas of comfort in Venice.

Oxford Triangle Gets Many “No Oversized Vehicle” Signs

Almost all of Oxford Ave and parts of Thatcher Ave received the signs this week.

It was just reported that many of the signs say “and” instead of “or” which is a large error.  This has happened before.  A tally has to be taken, City notified, and change will occur.

Oversize vehicle signs are permitted on a block by block basis when 65 percent of occupants sign a petition.

Taylor Bazley, Venice deputy, said it would take six months and it did. Taylor Bazley has the application and petitions. You can reach Bazley at taylor.bazley@lacity.org.

Motor Homes Asked to Move or be Towed


There were two motor homes in the Oxford Triangle parked for three days in the LAMC 85.02 red zone and with a two-hour parking limitation. Both got many tickets from parking attendant before police came and asked to move on or be towed.

Motor Homes are Moving West to Venice Since LAMC 85.02

Although certainly not the intention of the City to invite motor homes to Venice, it has been the result. The motor home dwellers looked at LAMC 85.02 and said “Ahha the City is inviting us to the beach” and to the beach they have been coming, making a mockery of LAMC 85.02 that was written to protect them and residents.

Venetians, not use to motor home dwellers, have been incensed with people pulling up to their front door with these large, looming vehicles. Most of these new dwellers are parking and disobeying the law by dwelling in the vehicle intentionally. And they are doing this much to the chagrin of Venetians. It is catch me if you can, and if you do, so what?

It has made Venetians ask many questions regarding this new influx of motor homes. Can a motor home park in front of my house? What is the law regarding such? Can I put up a sign and keep motor homes out? What if there is no sign, can I get them out? Who do I call?  Hopefully, this article will answer these questions.

Can a motor home park in front of my house?
Yes, a motor home can park in front of your house in Venice.

What is the law regarding motor home parking?
There are two laws restricting motor homes. Both laws can be used at the same time.


One law–Ordinance 181413, which is only for Venice west of Lincoln, governs signs being put on a block to restrict oversized vehicles from parking 2 am to 6 am without a one-day permit (One day permit will not be discussed). To get sign, one needs a petition with 66 percent of the block signatures. Sign is on a block-by-block basis. With these signs the parking of oversize vehicles, defined as motor vehicles “in excess of 22 feet in length or over 84 inches in height, is prohibited from 2 am until 6 am. Contact Taylor Bazley at Taylor.Bazley@lacity.org for petition.       map_edited-1

The other law is LAMC 85.02 which the Venice Update has been writing about for months now. It is the law with the red, yellow and green areas throughout Venice. It will sunset in July of 2018. Its purpose is to place motor homes in Venice without causing a problem until such time as safe places for motor homes can be found in church parking lots, in commercial or industrial areas. If you are in the red, yellow, or green zones, and you are, motor homes can park in front of your home.

In the red, they can park but never dwell in vehicle.

In the yellow, they can park but cannot dwell in vehicle from 9 pm to 6 am.

In the green, they can park and dwell.

Note that all present restrictive parking signs apply to all vehicles and streets. Example: If sign says 2-hour parking, that means two hours no matter what the color of the area, or the type of vehicle.

Can you put up a sign and keep motor homes out?
Yes, You can have all the signs you want in the red, yellow, or green areas. The sign that will restrict motor homes and not you is the 18143 sign that was discussed earlier. It allows motor homes to park but not between the hours of 2 and 6 am.

What if there is no sign, can a resident get violators out?
Yes, call the LAPD. Parking enforcement does not enforce 85.02. LAPD carries guns; parking enforcement does not. Think about the guy knocking on the door and who is behind the door. That is why LAPD does the enforcement.

Whom do I call?
If you have a 181413 sign or any other type of restrictive sign, call parking enforcement. If you have only the 85.02 one, call LAPD. Realize LAPD does not consider this high priority.

In one neighborhood a trailer with a car towing it was parked in red for almost two weeks, police came and according to the vehicle owner “I went ahead and moved my trailer even though the police (who’s time was repeatedly wasted) allowed me more time. Don’t want to cause anyone cardiac distress.”

After completely violating the law and being told, he moved to the yellow and has been there since. One cannot stay in vehicle from 9 pm to 6 am in yellow. Now in the yellow, one person left vehicle at 10 am to walk the dog the second morning.

The Oxford Triangle has five motor homes in it right now, which is most unusual. One is a resident of Jefferson Marina and has not purchased off street parking for his motor home. One is a fellow parked in two-hour parking. He got a ticket so he raised the hood which means he cannot move the vehicle. What that entails, is unknown. He has not moved since he settled in, raised the hood, and took his bikes off the rack.


“Ban on living in vehicles assailed”

Sunday’s Los Angeles Tmes had an article entitled “Ban on living in vehicles is assailed.” This particular article for some reason has not been on the internet.  The one linked was written 5 December about the same subject.

Triangle Gets the Junk


A local “junk” man has been purchasing motor homes, boats, trailers, vans and parking them in the Triangle.  Recently, there has been a boat, a VW van, a class A motor home, a Toyota class C motor home, a maroon jeep, a vehicle hauler.

Maroon jeep and VW van were parked overnight and into the afternoon in a two-hour zone. Parking enforcement finally cited him.   Man knows to move everything within 72 hours and he does.  Why he parked in two-hour zone is unusual for him.  Phone number for parking enforcement is: 213-485-4184.  Option 1 is for abandoned vehicles, such as 72-hour violation; option 2 is for violations, such as staying in two-hour zone more than two hours, commercial vehicles in residential zone.