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Are Dollars Spent on Encampment Cleanups Wasted, NBC Asks; Venice Update Asks What Price an Epidemic

NBC has done an article with a video featuring the 405 underpass on Venice Blvd and asking the question: “Are the Millions of Tax Dollars Spent on Encampment Cleanups Wasted?”  The story did not consider the alternative of not cleaning them and the possibility of a large scale city-wide, county-wide disease epidemic.  See article.

Residents near the 405 say the homeless enter their neighborhoods defecate and litter them during cleanups.  Sounds familiar from Venice’s 3rd Ave residents.  They do this whether it is cleanup day or not.

Yes, they do but not to the same extent as they have done in their own area.  One resident said: “Our streets are worse after these clean ups. If you come back the day afterwards, after a major cleaning, it looks the same or worse.”   Yes, after they repopulate their area, it looks the same and that may be one day afterward.   Areas in Venice are done once a week.  Remember these people are on drugs and alcohol and don’t have the discipline to get off them, much less cleanup after themselves.

Of course this costs money, as does having the police there, and as does having Department of Transportation post, signs write tickets.  Most of the people on drugs would not go into housing if it were offered, so they are not going to cooperate.  If one could get these people to go home to their families to take care of them, it would be a buck saver. Obviously, their families don’t want them either.  So the alternative is an epidemic.

Residents  don’t question the fact that the place is a disaster for disease and  having people come into your neighborhood only spreads a possible disease.

Becky Dennison of Venice Community Housing was quoted as saying that people needed porta potties.

Venice has 3rd Ave which is or was comparable to 405 on Venice Blvd..  Two porta potties were placed on private property under a shade tree for the convenience of the homeless on third before Christmas 2016.  By St. Patrick’s Day the next year, less than three months later, they were removed and an 8-foot fence was installed. Do not put clothes down the hole was the only rule.

They were later removed by the private property owner.  Obviously, the rules were not abided by the people on 3rd.  See articles following.  First one shows them in place; last paragraph of other story tells that they have been removed and an 8-foot fence installed.

https://veniceupdate.com/2016/12/23/porta-potties-in-private-parking-lot-on-3rd-ave/

https://veniceupdate.com/2017/03/17/3rd-avenue-last-thursday/   

Union Mission, when this writer took the tour, said that the City had installed a self-cleaning toilet across the street in the park in Skid Row.  The toilet cost $250K.  It was closed because people shot up in it, had sex in it, and locked the door and slept in it.

Porta potties have been installed a few blocks away from 3rd Ave at the beach and they are open all night and removed early each morning.  These porta potties have a security guard on duty all night to make sure the toilets are operated properly.

The article states:

Becky Dennison and infectious disease doctor Jeffrey Klausner of UCLA have visited the 405 Freeway encampment. They said conditions there are a breeding ground for disease and taxpayer dollars could be better spent to place portable toilets at every large homeless encampment.

Portable toilets, without a security guard, will not solve this problem.  It hasn’t worked in the past.They need a security guard.

Ask Dr. Drew, who has broadcast frequently, that LA is due for an epidemic if it continues at this rate.  Trash is what attracts the rats and spreads the disease.

Third Avenue has trash cans up and down the street, yet the trash is rampant and the trash cans are not rat proof.


Comments (4)

  1. Bonehead Bonin

    What is it with bums and creating mountains of trash? Do they go to a graduate school for bum studies where they learn how to make a mess? Most people who don’t deposit feces on the street seem to keep a relatively clean house or apartment. They don’t aggregate garbage, and if they do, you can bet the city would be all over them for code violations after a neighbor called them in. But with bums, everywhere you seen an encampment there’s steaming piles of trash, filth, mattresses, and assorted debris. Is it some kind of pathology associated with the lifestyle? Surely, some of them have to realize the garbage piles aren’t making them any friends except among the bum advocates who profit from the fiasco.

    • Charlie

      They don’t really create anymore trash than anybody else. The problem, which by the way was pointed out in this video, is that the city doesn’t have enough trash cans at these encampments. So consequently, trash piles up. Put some dumpsters at these sites and you would probably see a difference.

      • Bonehead Bonin

        Um, to quote the famous tuna, sorry Charlie. You must not be looking at the same bum encampments as everyone else. Highly unlikely the dumpsters would be used — because the bums would take up residence in those, too. But never mind that. You’re arguing that in addition to the city’s Sanitation Dept’s weekly maid service to disinfect all the steaming feces piles, we should also provide more garbage cans than we do already? How about some mints on their pillows? Foot massages? Back rubs? The reality is, these are people who have given up any sense of community. Trashing where they live is simply part of the lifestyle, and if the neighbors don’t like it, well screw ’em.

        • Charlie

          Yes I am arguing that the city should be providing more trash cans at these encampments. It’s the sensible thing to do. Did you even watch this news report ? If the “bums” won’t use trash cans if the city puts them there then why is it that the one trash can that is there is piled high with trash and there are mounds of trash on the ground surrounding that one lone can ?

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