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Mobile Storage for Homeless — Advantages — It’s a Win-Win

Venice Update totally supports this Mobile Storage Plan that the Homeless Committee of the Venice Neighborhood Council has devised. It is a win-win! It is innovative. It is cheaper and and more versatile.  It will benefit the homeless more. People should take note, communities should take note, particularly  Los Angeles. Take money saved and house the homeless.

This system takes the storage to the homeless, eliminating dragging “stuff” thru the streets (that is a lot of effort and time spent), it takes the supportive services to the ones needing them on a regular, reliable basis. It eliminates hard-to-find centralized structure locations that are cost effective and ready to operate and are also out of the residential areas. All communities could have this up and running in a short time. It is scalable for any community,  adds more benefits to the homeless, and saves money to house the homeless.   Go Venice Homeless Committee!

By Heidi Roberts

This is an ideal solution that our Council should consider implementing city-wide – for all the homeless storage needs across Los Angeles. The ability to scale the program up and down, depending on demand is fantastically flexible. If the City’s plan to house all the homeless works, fewer modified old MTA buses will be needed in the future. And if we need more to accommodate the homeless population, the City certainly has access to buses that can be converted quickly and easily.

One of the benefits of the program that hasn’t been talked about much is the street outreach aspect of the plan. Old-fashioned brick and mortar service-based outreach (a la Westminster Senior Center) has been proven time and time again to be much less effective than on-street “in situ” outreach. When case management experts are on the streets with the homeless, they create deeper, more consistent and more dependable relationships – they’re right there, sitting with the homeless and relating with their daily realities. Anyone who has ever had success lifting someone off the streets will tell you that you must be there – in that very moment – when the service-resistant homeless person hits rock bottom and is finally willing to accept help and start on a path toward rebuilding their lives. By contrast, that same person will never walk blocks away to seek help when they hit rock bottom and are finally receptive to help – for if they did, there would be a line around St. Joseph’s at all hours of every day. Frankly, the Mobile Storage plan is so much more than just storage – think of it like street outreach with a storage aspect to encourage participation.

Another less discussed aspect is cost. The cost to convert the Senior Center and run it is off the charts. The City is spending $542K to fix up the center for storage. And then budgeted an additional $384K to run the program. Say they manage to store belongings for 130 people (ranges have been reported from 110 to 130), that’s going to cost $7,123 per storage unit in the first year and $2,953K per storage unit in subsequent years. And none of this factors in the cost of losing the park for public access – that’s invaluable.

To be clear, that’s an immense amount of money to invest in a program that isn’t even designed to get people off the streets. I have researched and there is no evidence that storage is an effective strategy to shift people off the streets. In my discussion with the VP of Chrysalis (the organization slated to run the program), helping people transition off the streets is not an objective and they don’t even track it. Same goes for the 60-unit storage program that VCH runs on Ocean Front Walk.

One of the biggest issues I personally have with the City’s plan is that it’s a whole bunch of money being thrown at a whole bunch of services that won’t change a thing for either the homeless or the residents and visitors. $10-$12 million a year flows in to Venice-based service organizations as it is. Doubling down on more services that already exist and have not been helpful will not solve a thing. Converting the Senior Center to homeless storage is simply more of the same. The result? Safe to say: more of the same.

The Mobile Storage alternative is designed to work with more precision, more efficiency and more flexibility. Adopting this option would certainly work to bring the community together – it’s an alternative many can agree on. And as an added bonus, it would elevate Mike Bonin’s reputation in the eyes of this community and show that the City of Los Angeles is serious about employing innovative solutions to address a very serious problem they have avoided for years.

Comments (21)

  1. Richard Feibusch

    Anonymous, I hope you feel better getting all of that out… As for lumberjacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaRd4d8hOY

    • mikelovesgijoes@yahoo.com

      Warning: You may not now or ever use any part of my name. There are laws governing such.

      Richard Feibusch I presume. My family has been here in Venice for over 100 years and yes, we do remember you. I go by the name Anonymous but their is someone else by that name here. I heard this site has a history of people protecting who they are and for obvious reasons. My code name for now is “Reta M”. I typed this up earlier: The lumberjacks must have done something really bad to deserve this. I think it’s fair treatment and you bearded lumberjacks deserve it. You wouldn’t have been able to survive the early 90′s and before that in Venice, or in most of Los Angeles. You have to earn your respect here. People thought the Mayans vanished but that was just a myth. We are still in Venice, we are thriving and we don’t need lumberjacks to cut wood for us. We know how to take care of ourselves and we also take care of our family and friends. I been been through the fire and now I’m back and here to tell you things are going to “change”. I hope the whole world is listening up because if we keep letting people like these lumberjacks disrespect the land we live in then we are going to have a huge problem for the future of mankind. We are at a crossroads. A few people have been saying Vexit to Venice. Your going to form your own Republic and demand a new nation of Lumberjacks. You want the benefits of old school Venice without even actually having to go through all the pain, and no glory of what old school Venice went through. Lumberjacks are all the same. They say they work hard and deserve respect for properly grooming their beards in between chopping wood. I don’t owe you any respect! You’re dirtier than the ax you grind. Venice is for everyone. The BID is just a form of a small scale Vexit. Lumberjacks have a way with defining their boundaries so that only they keep the best land for themselves. We need to stop the BID in Venice now or this can potentially be the final ax blow these lumberjacks have in store for us. I dedicate this to my mother and my father who raised a son in Venice that wasn’t always perfect. And yes, lumberjacks always eat wood chips. (Someone who is also anonymous is on here claiming to be me, so now I’m using Reta M. Anyone can be who they want in Venice) I’m not saying all white people are boring and I’m not racist.

      • Richard Feibusch

        Naaaaa, anonymous/Reta M, yer just a nutcase with a keyboard – Have fun wasting everyone’s bandwidth with your angry nonsense – As Truman Capote once said about Jack Kerouac’s work, and it applies to you as well, “”That’s not writing, that’s typing.” Grow up….

    • mikelovesgijoes@yahoo.com

      Warning: You may not now or ever use any part of my name. There are laws governing such. Hope I have made myself clear.

      I never said for the lumber sexuals to get out of town. People would wish to see that happen, but I didn’t say that. Not all white people are boring and I’m not racist. The bond measure is coming, and it has gained momentum. Yes, we will be worth almost 2 billion come November. You want a clean Venice, you got it. Be careful what you wish for.

      • IwasntUsingYourName

        I wasn’t using your name Reta Moser. There are people on this site who use whatever name they choose and you need to clear that up on your wordpress site before you start threatening people. How many people on Earth are named Anonymous, tell me that Reta? Yet, all over the internet people choose to post whatever name they wish on blogs like these. You need to clear this up before someone else takes it more seriously. I could have called myself kettle bell Z on this site. Would you have a problem with that too. My daughter could have your name and yet, you choose to threaten me on your own site just because of your own mistakes. Make this a log in site and stop threatening people each time someone makes you upset.

        • reta

          Yes, you were and you know you were. I do not threaten. If you want to act like an adult, you may comment on this site. Otherwise, get off of it or I will remove you.

    • IwasntUsingYourName

      And I respect that so I won’t use that name anymore if it makes you upset. You need to realize that if someone wants to be Joe Somebody, then you need to respect that too. How many people with your own name? Otherwise it’s going to catch up with you and then might have to use a log in for this site. For all the old school people out there in Los Angeles and Venice lets make the loudest most politically aggressive campaign ever to save Venice, end the BID once and for all, and protect the true diversity that Venice is all about. Our supporters are growing stronger each day. We support the bond measure coming in November to help low income, and homeless housing, plus services. We need your support to make this happen. I am %100 percent positive we will win this fight!

      • reta

        You see my comment above.

        • IwasntUsingYourName

          Foursquare has their names “changed” to protect identities so I have that same right under the law as well. You need stop the threats each time you get all upset we end up with a bulldozing win. You are not a journalist. You are an activist with a vial site. I won’t be on here anymore. There are plenty more of me who want to save venice, not destroy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDg5Vhb9fFo

        • IwasntUsingYourName

          And let me make myself clear: I wasn’t using your name. How dare you threaten me and accuse you of using your name! I can be whom I want to be on this site! You don’t know me! I would never want to know someone like you! Unless you do something to change the log in, or make it mandatory that everyone in the USA must use their real name on sites like this, you are going to have a real problem, not me! This is my last post.

        • IwasntUsingYourName

          Correction: How dare you accuse me of using your name!

  2. Anonymous

    To all the bigot haters that said it couldn’t be done. Read it and weep. Heard those opposed walked away feeling helpless. That’s how it feels being homeless you bigots! Next up, we are going to stop the BID and end this whole Vexit thing once and for all! We don’t need another Republic of Santa Monica, do we? Read the article, it’s good for you: http://yovenice.com/2016/09/12/storage-solution/

  3. anonymous

    There are no positive aspects of being transferred out of Venice. I wouldn’t trust Foursquare with any of my belongings, or your mobile units! I can see you’ll do what it takes to keep pressing us out further into areas like Bakersfield. We will also press back to fight for what is also ours. Venice is something special to us, and we will keep pushing back if we have to for infinity. You want to take on a heavy load! You want it, you got it!

    • anonymous

      Dude, you guys are “going to fight what is yours.” Venice is NOT yours just because you enjoy the beach. Beachfront property is a privilege that you work for, not something that you just squat and take.

      You don’t have a legal right to live in Venice UNLESS you own a home or lease an apartment. Home ownership or leasing an apartment is the foundation of American society. Property rights are inviolate. You can’t revolt and just take away property from the city or from homeowners. Go to the Palisades or Brentwood and see how fast Bonin crushes your silly talk of rebellion.

      • Anonymous

        We are fighting for what is ours too. I’d like to see you and your wolf pack try and get that round up going again, it’s not going to happen! Dream on! Venice Beach is for everyone. The sunshine is free. From North to South, east to west, we are living in the land of the free. Come on, come get us! We have a lot of trash for you to come collect from us! You are going to be working real hard hauling our junk around. It’s going to make you real strong. You’ll build your character and gain respect for those less fortunate. Try and play your games again by trying to ship us out and we just keep on coming back. We are your worst nightmare and we are going to be living it up in Venice forever enjoying blue skies and plenty of free parking while you haul our heavy loads. We can partner up with Westminster Elementary to help tutor them, build up their gardens their, and even have free RV Parking in the Westminster parking lot at night. Sound good neighbor?

        • Anonymous

          I love how when homeowners “fight for what is theirs (simply not having trash on the streets, property values, safety for their children), they are gentrifiers and scum. When the homeless demand storage and “fight for what is theirs,” it’s a beautiful crusade. There are boos and hisses at long-term residents concerned about their most valuable possessions – a very real, impactful concern. The homeless advocates sue the city and blame “boring white people” when a shopping cart full of trash is merely moved. Why are the homeless the only ones allowed to care about their possessions?

        • Anonymous

          Wow Mike Bonin. THIS is the kind of person who is actually supporting what you are doing. You really should be commended for your outreach efforts to the homeless because it is evident you do not care about the tax paying residents of your district.

  4. anonymous

    To Heidi Roberts: It’s only a win-win for your political party of haters and bigots. What kind of majority are you anyway, a party of people who will say and do what it takes to get of low income and homeless people living in Venice! These are the shenanigans that have been played out lately by the VNC and also the one man Majority Mark Ryavec. Get onto Foursquare of Venice’s site and you’ll see the long paragraphs of words used to cover up the real stories of people being shipped out of town to places like “Carson”. How about I take your stuff Heidi, put it on a big mobile shipping unit, and transfer you out of town! How would you feel if someone did that to you!

    • Anonymous

      No idea who you are addressing in this post but why do you feel like people are trying to get homeless “shipped out.” People do not just deserve to get free reign to drink, so drugs, piss in the streets, and leave trash everywhere because it’s Venice. It makes no sense to place a homeless center beside an elementary school. Have some respect for the future of your community and understand that residents are just trying to protect the children.

      • anonymous

        The lumberjacks must have done something really bad to deserve this. I think it’s fair treatment and you bearded lumberjacks deserve it. You wouldn’t have been able to survive the early 90′s and before that in Venice, or in most of Los Angeles. You have to earn your respect here. People thought the Mayans vanished but that was just a myth. We are still in Venice, we are thriving and we don’t need lumberjacks to cut wood for us. We know how to take care of ourselves and we also take care of our family and friends. I been been through the fire and now I’m back and here to tell you things are going to “change”. I hope the whole world is listening up because if we keep letting people like these lumberjacks disrespect the land we live in then we are going to have a huge problem for the future of mankind. We are at a crossroads. A few people have been saying Vexit to Venice. Your going to form your own Republic and demand a new nation of Lumberjacks. You want the benefits of old school Venice without even actually having to go through all the pain, and no glory of what old school Venice went through. Lumberjacks are all the same. They say they work hard and deserve respect for properly grooming their beards in between chopping wood. I don’t owe you any respect! You’re dirtier than the ax you grind. Venice is for everyone. The BID is just a form of a small scale Vexit. Lumberjacks have a way with defining their boundaries so that only they keep the best land for themselves. We need to stop the BID in Venice now or this can potentially be the final ax blow these lumberjacks have in store for us. I dedicate this to my mother and my father who raised a son in Venice that wasn’t always perfect. And yes, lumberjacks always eat wood chips.

        • Anonymous

          Venice is for everyone. Except lumberjacks. Not the lumberjacks. And rich people. Venice is not for rich people. VENICE IS FOR EVERYONE!! Except people I don’t like. I hate those people. They need to go! Mayans are alive. There are rules here, lumberjacks. We people who live here now don’t have to follow them, but YOU do. We throw our trash everywhere just to prove that this is OUR VENICE, not yours. Go cut wood. It’s for everyone. But not Snapchat or Google. Or people who drive a Prius. Or people who drink coffee. I HATE COFFEE! Go back to wherever you came from. Go grind your ax.

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